A Special Podcast Series

Episode 4

Why the Amount of Money We Have Doesn’t Guarantee a Free Mind

With Barbara Patterson + Melissa Palazzo-Hart

In today’s episode, Melissa & Barb discuss how allowing external circumstances to affect their state of being is risky business.

With compassion for themselves and others, our hosts share anecdotal moments of recognizing how our state of our mind can lend to moments that make for the best memories, or how our overthinking can get in the way.

Are there areas in your life where you recognize that a stirred up state of mind or errant thinking affect your experiences?


  • Melissa shares with us her Jarlsberg Cheese sandwich memory, and why that sandwich has tasted better than any meal at aMichelin Star restaurant. [00:01:08]
  • Barb acknowledges Melissa’s takeaway from the cheese sandwich moment by explaining that any time we have peace of mind, we have happiness. [00:05:23]
  • Barb discusses her rabbit hole “trip to hell” via thought. [00:10:33]
  • Barb discusses needing to have faith vs. trusting that you will be okay no matter what happens. [00:12:17]
  • Melissa asks Barb how we remember to refer back to knowing we are okay ‘no matter what’. [00:14:54]
  • Barb answers Melissa’s question above. [00:15:14]
  • Melissa shares about the time she helped a group of highly successful women recognize that there’s a difference between striving and drive, and having fresh thought and knowing where to go in the moment. [00:18:24]



Meet Your Hosts

Barbara Patterson is the owner of a global coaching and consulting company bringing the insights of performance and fulfillment to clients around the world. She helps organizations, leaders, entrepreneurs and coaches access more clarity, creativity, have greater impact and higher levels of performance in work and life. Barb is the Founder of Beyond Limits in Business, a global platform and community designed to point people to the source of human potential.

You can follow Barb on Linkedin ,Twitter and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at

Melissa Palazzo-Hart has 25 years’ experience leading marketing, strategy, finance, operations, and talent for some of the most prestigious agencies and brands including Disney, Activision and Omnicom. Throughout her career, she has built campaigns for some of the biggest names in entertainment and media which have been awarded Emmy Awards, Cannes Lion Awards, Effies, Telly Awards, Game Marketing Awards, Broadcast Design Association Gold Awards, and Clio Awards. Melissa is building a movement of paradigm shifters to unlock the potential of their minds to affect change in our world through seeing and living beyond perceived limits. She guides leaders and organizations at the highest levels how to make a meaningful impact through the power of heart work, instead of hard work.

You can follow Melissa on Linkedin and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at


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