A Special Podcast Series

Episode 7

Why So Serious?

With Barbara Patterson + Melissa Palazzo-Hart

Life can feel heavy, and circumstances seem serious. But what if having a lighter state of mind could shift all of that?

Today, Barb and Melissa talk about the errant belief that ‘grinding’ and taking our lives and businesses too seriously is somehow beneficial.

Are there areas in your life where you can lighten up and discover the real possibilities of freedom and joy from a freer, lighter mind?


  • Barb shares her experience about how heavy and worried states of mind can suck the joy out of even the most exciting projects or relationships. [00:01:11]
  • Melissa shares her cat’s favorite wakeup ritual to convey how having a sense of humor and shifting to a place of joy can change everything. [00:07:48]
  • Melissa also shares her fear of rollercoasters in a way that has her coin a new mantra to help guide her (and all of us) to be more committed to the moment of ‘now'. [00:10:05]
  • Barb conveys how a freer, lighter mind helps us perform better in life and business with more agility and freedom. [00:11:04]
  • Melissa plays devil’s advocate in deeming something “super important” and needing to take it seriously. [00:12:15]
  • Barb reminds us that “hard” is just a state of mind and that she and Melissa are not saying we must all walk around in positivity, but that moods and states of mind are fluid. Just watch an athlete or an actor gripping their performance too hard. [00:13:45]
  • Melissa loves a challenge and calls herself and all of us to be more joyful—like a young child. [00:15:47]



Meet Your Hosts

Barbara Patterson is the owner of a global coaching and consulting company bringing the insights of performance and fulfillment to clients around the world. She helps organizations, leaders, entrepreneurs and coaches access more clarity, creativity, have greater impact and higher levels of performance in work and life. Barb is the Founder of Beyond Limits in Business, a global platform and community designed to point people to the source of human potential.

You can follow Barb on Linkedin ,Twitter and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at

Melissa Palazzo-Hart has 25 years’ experience leading marketing, strategy, finance, operations, and talent for some of the most prestigious agencies and brands including Disney, Activision and Omnicom. Throughout her career, she has built campaigns for some of the biggest names in entertainment and media which have been awarded Emmy Awards, Cannes Lion Awards, Effies, Telly Awards, Game Marketing Awards, Broadcast Design Association Gold Awards, and Clio Awards. Melissa is building a movement of paradigm shifters to unlock the potential of their minds to affect change in our world through seeing and living beyond perceived limits. She guides leaders and organizations at the highest levels how to make a meaningful impact through the power of heart work, instead of hard work.

You can follow Melissa on Linkedin and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at


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