A Special Podcast Series

Episode 6

What Came First—Courage or Action?

With Barbara Patterson + Melissa Palazzo-Hart

ACTION? What if courage nor confidence were needed to step more fully into our lives?

In today’s episode, Melissa and Barb demonstrate ways to show up in life without having to have it all figured out before we do. Though courage and vulnerability are often present in our lives, Barb and Melissa discuss the beauty of being able to take action regardless.


  • Melissa shares a story that conveys how courage can show up for us before, during, or after we decide to be bold and act. [00:01:00]
  • Barb gets to pick up where Melissa leaves listeners with a cliffhanger and points out that neither courage nor confidence is required to take action. [00:06:53]
  • Melissa is destined for a TEDx talk but discusses how she once errantly thought this reality would happen only after she got her act together. She then teaches us about the danger and disgust of dumpster diving. [00:09:56]
  • Barb reminds us that even though thinking something through might be helpful at times, it’s only imagination until we are faced with what is real in the moment. [00:13:54]
  • Melissa discusses how to break down courage and action, needing only to be a three-foot toss or a single leap from one lily pad to another. But please do not mistake her for a frog. 🙂 [00:16:54]



Meet Your Hosts

Barbara Patterson is the owner of a global coaching and consulting company bringing the insights of performance and fulfillment to clients around the world. She helps organizations, leaders, entrepreneurs and coaches access more clarity, creativity, have greater impact and higher levels of performance in work and life. Barb is the Founder of Beyond Limits in Business, a global platform and community designed to point people to the source of human potential.

You can follow Barb on Linkedin ,Twitter and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at

Melissa Palazzo-Hart has 25 years’ experience leading marketing, strategy, finance, operations, and talent for some of the most prestigious agencies and brands including Disney, Activision and Omnicom. Throughout her career, she has built campaigns for some of the biggest names in entertainment and media which have been awarded Emmy Awards, Cannes Lion Awards, Effies, Telly Awards, Game Marketing Awards, Broadcast Design Association Gold Awards, and Clio Awards. Melissa is building a movement of paradigm shifters to unlock the potential of their minds to affect change in our world through seeing and living beyond perceived limits. She guides leaders and organizations at the highest levels how to make a meaningful impact through the power of heart work, instead of hard work.

You can follow Melissa on Linkedin and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at


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